So, rather than just making a blog to whine about it whenever I get banned, I'm going to go outside that box today and write on some different things.
I'm just going to summarize a few posts I've read over the past few weeks on 99chan.
One of the things that makes our imageboard better is the posts, or rather the lack of. People on 99chan tend not to post when it's not needed, and when they do, they usually make an extra effort to make any bad thread viable.
Someone on /b/ a few weeks posted a thread telling people to stop putting "Hey /b/" or some variation of that into their thread. I concur, it seems retarded when posted over and over again.
You have been banned from posting on /b/, /ask/ for the following reason:
Ban reason for /b/: What has the fact that this isn't 4chan got to do with the OP returning from Tehran? Also, I'm interested in the subject, so obviously some people do care. Ban reason for /ask/: This is /r/ material, sorry.
Your ban was placed on July 1, 2009, 6:08 am, and will expire on July 4, 2009, 6:08 am.
The reason I called that thread out on /b/ for being 4chan-esque, is because frankly it is a 4chan type thread. First of all that nigger had no proof that he had actually been in Iran, which makes whoever banned me gullible as hell. Overall I was just sick of hearing about Iran, not specifically on 99chan, but in the media in general. I hate when I turn on the TV and they call it "The Twitter revolution", and I guess that was just tipping me to the point that I didn't care anymore. The style the thread was posted in was what made me call it out on being 4chan. The OP said "Just got home from Tehran. Ask an election protest survivor anything." Now, maybe if the thread was composed differently, rather than putting it into the generic template "Ask a ____ anything", which started becoming a very popular to start off threads on 4chan about a year ago. OP could have at least been more informative of his experiences, if in fact he was actually in Iran, which he wasn't.
Then onto my banning from /ask/. First of all, I don't know what the fuck is going on with that board, but in the last few days there've been about 10 new threads, which confuses me. Usually thats about the max for an entire week.
I was also somewhat disgruntled by this post:
G. Oogleit 09/06/30(Tue)02:30 No. 19956 [Reply] Alright, /ask/. I need to know. How do I shaved pubes? Just like shaving my face, or what? I am at a total loss here. Pic related, I don't know what the fuck.
How do I shaved pubes? Com'on, thats fucking I can haz cheeseburger syntax. Not to mention it was a completly retarded topic to begin with.
Onto my ban. I accept it, but I feel the time frame is inadequate given the nature of the reason for my ban. I don't even think I should have been banned. It was enough that the thread was deleted for being wrongly posted in /ask/.
Whatever, guess I'm posting on /regs/. I don't really understand that board anyways, it doesn't suck, there have been a few good discussions. I really like the thread about the security guy that works in the hospital.
Also,
I don't know why you don't make /mu/ visable. You want to use it to share music? It would be much more useful if you revoked the ability to post mp3's, as many people are retarded to the point that they don't read the front page and wrongly post music discussion in a Meta board.
Alternatively, you could put at the top of the page "Do not post music licenced in USA", or something like that. Then the board would turn into japanophile garbage though. Huh.
So, the 99chan /b/ is being split into one that allows bullshit and one that doesn't? I realize that /regs/ is just getting off the ground, but it's sucking pretty hard so far.
Didn't 7chan do this a short while after it was resurrected and 78/99chan came into existence? I wasn't there to see how the 7chan experiment went, but it probably sucked.
Let me predict the end of this board, in lets say, two weeks or less. Probably in a time frame resembling that of the former /incognito/.
Also, if anyone with power reads this, change the default theme back to nigrachan again...
Lets add this word to the list of annoying chan terms. I was just looking at some thread on 99 with that 2 headed sister sucking off some guy and I swear the next 10 replies all said "shoop".
I don't really know, but isn't "shoop" in some way connected to that old encyclopedia dramatica shit Shoop da whoop?
Ironically I received this message trying to report a post.
I guess I'm just feeling a little disenfranchised ever since 4chan went down and all those faggots started posting at 99chan. I know it isn't that bad, but I just feel a bit oddly about it. Maybe by the time my ban is over the /b/ board will have cleared up a little.
Also, why are there so many tripfags on 99chan? I see two new ones pop up every day. I recall Casanova writing on /docta/ once that this isn't inherent that everyone posts with a trip. I can see trying to make a name for yourself, like users like VoxxenFAIL have (even if they get annoying sometimes) but most of the people using tripcodes only use them maybe once or twice and I never see them posting again.
The worst thing that can happen to 99chan would be otherchanners ruining our well spoken replies and fantastic grammar.
hopefuly all these crappy posts will disapere
Another type of post I hate is, for for example, "What is your favorite... ", these are usually good with a non shitty userbase, but if you get into people that don't explain why, then you get simple, one worded replies that don't really contribute anything.
G. Oogleit 09/04/22(Wed)20:17 No. 17122 [Reply] How the fuck do I move to England? I want to GTFO America, after realizing how fucking terrible it really is here. Our health care is shit, our economy is shit, and everything here is miserable.
How can I get a job over seas if I can't make it to interviews etc.? Anyone done this? Sorry if I seem like an idiot, I'm 18 and don't know much about government or anything yet.
I would REALLY love to move to France, but I don't really want to invest in the effort to learn the language. I've been to England and felt very peaceful and calm there.
Anyways, thanks for the help if you guys give it!
America sux, hurf durf. I know America sucks because I have the DL on everywhere else in the entire world. Stoopd America hahah.
This is just another blog about loathing and how I'm having trouble feeling a connection to 99chan.
Maybe it's just because I haven't been on as much lately, but I just feel very disconnected from the board. I remember probably up until a few months ago all I ever did was go on 99chan; this was part of my daily life for close to a year.
Maybe the posts aren't getting worse and I'm just being a sack of potatoes.
Oh well, it's still the best thing out there. I will use 4chan on occasion for specialty boards, but usually only for a quick answer. Even when I do post there, the replies are genuinely retarded, which is why I'd rather post on 99chan.
Whatever.
In other news I went on Digg today. God damn I hate Digg. HURRRRR MARIJUANEE AND FUNNAY RE: PICTURES
I was just visiting the Overchan, looking through boards.
As I browse through the massive list of shitty chans it has become apparent to me that I have a hard time posting on sites that aren't 99.
I guess our beloved 99 has too much of a forum feel, too civilized to compare to other chans. I don't think I clicked on one chan that didn't have some dumbass board like /lolcats/ or /cancer/. I find that silly. I don't think I've even had the urge to make a stupid post since I left sites like that behind. Sites like those typically don't have very large userbases though, so its hard to compare them to bigger sites like 4chan (which has a whole different set of problems). 4chan is actually better than most of these smaller chans due to the fact that they receive many bad posts since people are just trying to get them started, however they don't realize that shitty posts don't really help.
I hate seeing this thread, and I always forget about the hide thread button. I don't understand why no one locked this thread. This topic does have potential for discussion, but the way it was delivered is what gets my goat.
This is a bit off subject, and a wall of text. Lately I haven't been going on any chan a whole lot. Maybe I'm just bored with them. Oh man, House is on and its the episode with the kid that has penis AND vagina, they've had promos on for that all week. Anyways, 99chan's 500 boards seem to be getting shittier, or maybe its just me. I started writing a article or whatever you would call it on 'Imageboards in Western Nations', or something like that, but I haven't touched it in about a week. Anhh, I have a lot of stuff to do in the next 8 or so months, graduating highschool and the transitions included in that (into college) are a fucking ride. That could be part of the reason I've grown so disenfranchised with the chan community in the past few weeks. If this is choppy it's because I've been watching House.
Put it at the begining of your ramble, if not in the subject line. That way I won't have to read to the end of a post to realize there is a description.
Well, at least it isn't on 99chan anyways. I know it is on 4chan sometimes, I know of someone who was banned from there /b/ board for it (and consequently fashion, which was the main board they posted on). Other than that I don't know of anyone who's ever been banned for it. I can't stand when someone posts, even if they're 16 or 17, and then some moron out of the blue goes HEHEHHGHHURRRRR UNDERAGE B&!
A good percentage of posters are probably underaged anyways. Maybe that's part of why people like to call them out on it. Is it fun to try and identify underage posters?
In the end it doesn't really matter if they're underage or not, as long as the contribution to the conversation isn't something fucking retarded. I guess part of the fear that people might have is that if the userbase becomes younger the conversation might start to loose quality. People who fit into this category seem to range from 14 or younger up to 17.
We can see this on websites like Rotteneggs.com, posts become mostly about angsty things like anarchy, bomb making, or things you could set on fire.
Where did underage b& ever come from anyways? Must have been the shown age requirement on some of the 4chan boards.
And that board was /incognito/. It's still there, but its hidden now (I think).
A sticky reads as follows:
1. All posts on this board are Anonymous. 2. No ip addresses are logged (meaning you can't be banned). 3. There are no rules apart from nothing illegal (CP etc) 4. This is not /b/. 5. This board has nothing to do with 'Anonymous'. 6. Don't abuse this board.
This board is a mix of crappy 4chan /b/ style posts and OK posts. This is basically where people from 4chan end up talking about 4chan.
One poster described it as a /r9k/ of 99chan. Now I have been to Robot9000, but only to see what it was. I left 4chan a few months before the board was created. It seems to be a bunch of posts mostly on religion and relationships and misc content. /incognito/ is only like /r9k/ in that its a second board created which was intended to be popular (I say this becuase for a night /incognito/ had its own subcatagory in the page directory at the top). Also it helps that /r9k/ has that rule where if something was posted that you try to post you're banned from posting for longer and longer periods.
This is an important thread:
After a brief browse of the content here I now see the true purpose of this board and the end result of such a social experiment. I'm sure most of you can now appreciate the 'kill with fire' approach the Mods have taken to weak/cancerous content on all other boards. Without any objective purpose to the board it did indeed become /b/. This fact combined with the lack of Moderation has lead to an emulation effect of 4chan /b/. Proving once again the general populous (99chan user base) cannot exist in a state of control without some authoritarian presence; and the impending fear of persecution.
Another key factor I have established from the evidence available on this board is the definite requirement for some degree of self-governance. This should be a pre-requisite before any project on this scale will succeed. Some basic understanding by the 'old-er' more experienced users that they control the content is required; 'new-er' users should look for guidance from the said people.
A future hypothesis I propose to the Mods is maybe the prospect of removing moderation from one of the more intellectual boards (albeit temporarily), in order to test the effects of authoritarian rule over a more intellectual cohort.
Final proposition - if self-governance on a board could be established; why not create a board with a user based voting ban/delete system? (minus ToS/illegal content which the Mods would have to undoubtedly remove)
Pic related; they're my sentiments on the issue at hand. Expand all images>> Anonymous 09/01/29(Thu)05:23 No. 683 >>679
Finnaly some intelligence on this board, you have some interesting ideas.I don't agree with the removal of Mods from intellectual boards. Only because they are my safe-haven from mass faggotry, but still... it makes sense. I remember another user in a thread sometimes ago was explaining similar things.
Anon >> Anonymous 09/01/29(Thu)06:40 No. 693 >>679 >it did indeed become /b/ Says you. Maybe your feeble mind simply hasn't wrapped around the fact that results are still inconclusive and you have no idea what /incognito/ is or what it will become.
>blah blah blah 99chan user base The 99chan user base is dynamic, so even if what you said about the current user base were true, your point wouldn't be worth much in a week.
>requirement for some degree of self-governance Agreed.
In conclusion, this thread is already an example of a difference between /b/ and /incognito/ because you can post an intelligent criticism of the workings of the moderators without fear of being arbitrarily banned. I don't think /tttm/ even has that. >> Anonymous 09/01/29(Thu)07:19 No. 696 are you for or against moderation, I can't even tell.
votebans I think would go particularly badly on this chan because much of the userbase has adapted to the overmoderation here (you can't deny it, otherwise this board would not exist) by calling for bans due to the slightest infraction against their taste.
Also emulating 4chan /b/ is not necessarily a bad thing. It would likely work much better here because, well, we aren't fags. The self governance you talk about was a key factor in what made old 4chan 'good', subjective though the term certainly is.
>>683 >finnaly some intelligence
a post signature on a chan, but specifically on this board, and especially the one used is the height of redundancy. I don't think I could actually come up with a better example of the word. >> Anonymous 09/01/29(Thu)07:20 No. 697 if you are against a board with no moderation, dont post here. its really that simple. >> Anonymous 09/01/29(Thu)07:23 No. 699 Shut up Orochimaru. Go feel up on your Kayuga's and Uchihas >> Anonymous 09/01/29(Thu)09:29 No. 739 >>699 "You wanna play with my trouser snake?" >> Anonymous 09/01/29(Thu)09:33 No. 741 >>693 Trolls will most definitely turn this board into 4chan, just to piss the rest of the userbase off. >> Anonymous 09/01/29(Thu)09:54 No. 755 >>739
"My special swirling, red, and irritated eyes allows me to SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE." >> Anonymous 09/01/29(Thu)09:59 No. 759 File: 123325198149.jpg-(214.69KB, 600x452, 120398709057.jpg) >>741
Yeah, but then we won't have to deal with it elsewhere. if /incognito/ turns into some 4chan shitfest, so be it.
You don't have to visit this particular board when it does. >> Anonymous 09/01/29(Thu)10:46 No. 778 This is a worthwhile experiment. The mods run this place like it's North Korea. Nice to be able to get away from mod Nazis on this board.
As for it becoming like 4chan's /b/, well it might, but even then it will be superior because at least threads will last longer than 5 minutes. >> Anonymous 09/01/29(Thu)10:57 No. 789 File: 12332554496.jpg-(204.58KB, 692x659, Ninja L Jackson.jpg) OP here,
After reading through some of the responses it seems several of you seem to have had some difficulty in distinguishing whether or not I support Moderation. The reason why you cannot sense the bias is because I have attempted to write the article in a scientifically unbiased manner.
I only wished to present an objective discussion of what I have seen thus far and propose some addition experimental ideas. I concede as this Anon stated so eloquently >>693, my conclusions are rather premature; this is not the end point of the social experiment (after all the board is only 2 days old). However, in my defense I did not originally state my findings as absolute; they are only relative to the current state of affairs.
Ergo, I extend a question to those who wish to participate in further discussion:
"Ideally, where would you personally wish to see the direction of this board go? i.e. content, relevance in relation to the rest of 99chan, wider *chan scope etc."
The problem with the /ask/ board lately is that people don't read the sticky. It says RIGHT FUCKING THERE to take problems pretaining to
"Sex and Relationship questions do not belong here, they belong in:
http://www.99chan.org/docta/."
Ask is really just a smart version of Yahoo Answers with people that know about things that you would probably have questions about.
My problem though is that there is too much grey area material. I don't care to see self loathing posts about how you don't want to get out of bed becuase you're depressed and will probably kill yourself becuase of it. Problems with other family members should also be filed under /docta/.
